Hauling Freight with the Orange Live Steamers Part 1
I was stationed in Orange in New South Wales for eight years from 1988 to when I resigned in 1996. During that time a group of live steamers got together and, by the time I left Orange, had established neat running area in Anson Street just on the outskirts of the shopping centre.
The group is still in existence and the track is still in place and becomes a hive of activity on operating days. These photos were taken during one such operating session last year by one of my sons who still lives in Orange.
Photo courtesy of John Livesey
Not everyone goes to run their live steamers on an operating day. Some come along to show off the work that has gone into their latest creation and get some input from other club members. Here are two members casting a critical eye over a partially built NSWGR C30T.
Barry Potter is well known as a loco builder in live steam circles and he has built a number of NSWGR 50 class steam locos for various people. It’s quite possible that 5035 and 5037 are products of his workshop.
Photo courtesy of John Livesey
Photo courtesy of John Livesey
The 36 class were one THE mainline passenger loco of the NSWGR before being bumped to lesser duties following the introduction of the 38 class and diesels such as the 40 class, 42 class, 43 class and 44 class. Here we see a model of the last of the 36 class sitting in the yard area.
Photo courtesy of John Livesey
3807 was one of the first non-streamlined 38 class locomotives. I’m not sure if it ever In real life it never carried the green paint scheme shown here (although 3813 and 3830 carried this scheme) but when you built a beautiful working model like this you’re entitled to paint it any colour you choose. (I’m not sure where my brain was when I wrote the first part of that sentence) All members of the 38 class carried a similar green livery at some stage of their working lives.
Photo courtesy of John Livesey
January 30th, 2009 at 2:45 am
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March 31st, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Re 3807: All the 38s were green, and that model represents 07 as first painted.
April 1st, 2009 at 5:43 am
Sorry to disagree with you there Nathan but there were only three 38s that were painted green in real life – 3801, 3913 and 3830. The remainder of the class were black.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:11 am
I beg to differ once more, more then 3 38′s were painted green at some stage of their life within NSWGR service, with most being painted green.
3801, 3803, 3805, 3807, 3813, 3819, 3827 and 3830 are all locomotives I have seen images of being painted green. The livery 3807 is painted in is based on multiple photographs of the locomotive painted in the green livery.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:30 am
I stand corrected – I note that Leon Oberg on page 185 of his Locomotives of Australia book says that all of the class carried a green livery at some stage of their lives.
Stuart
December 29th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
3801, 3803, 3805, 3807, 3813, 3819, 3822, 3825, 3827 and 3830. 3820 WAS green at one stage. This statement is from NSWRTM ROUNDHOuSE
November 23rd, 2010 at 12:13 am
Post-1963 the only 38s in green were 3801 (painted Green after overhaul, was black 1954-62), 3813 (only loco never painted black) and 3830 (black 1955-61, painted Olive Green in 1961, painted in 1949 Green in 1966).
ALL 38s were delivered in works Grey, and after a period of running in were forwarded to Eveleigh Carriage Works for painting. The non-streamliners were either Green with a Black smokebox, or all Green. 3806 and 3819 are two which, according to photographic evidence, carried both schemes. It might also be worth noting that photographic evidence exists that shows each and every 38 in their original Green. 3808 and 3813 were the last two to receive Green repaints, 08 for Royal Train duties (see the Belbin Video ‘Days of Steam’) and 13 for the NSWGR Centenary celebrations.
As a matter of interest, 3807 was the first to be painted black, in 1954 for Pilot duties on the Royal Train. It was the only 38 to carry red and buff lining with the Black – this lining pattern was generally only used on the Green locomotives, as the Black locomotives were lined in Signal Red only. 3819 was the last to be painted Black, in 1957. 3804 is also noted as having been painted in Unlined Black for a short period. Interestingly, 3830 ran for a brief time in 1960 with only Red lining on the lower valance, and boiler bands.
To summarise, and to make it absolutely clear, ALL the 38s were Green, and for a period of about 5 years (1949, when 3830 was first painted, to 1954, when 3807 was painted black) ALL were GREEN at the same time.
Stuart I highly suggest purchasing the book ’38′, by John Thompson and published by Eveleigh Press, and ‘Flyer’, by the NSWRTM. Really the two biblical texts on the 38s.